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Episode 15 – Freaky Fairy Tales

Greetings, guys! Welcome back and come talk about weirdo fairy tales with us. This episode explores the originals...the OGs, as it were. Before they got watered down and filtered into children's movies and cartoons. Before people cared about scarring children mentally with horrific tales. Way way back in the weird. Let's check it out!

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Produced by Peter Woodward

LISTENER STORY ALERT!!

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And also…JOY-MEEE! You’re a demon fighter!

Storytelling is a vital and integral part of human history. From the earliest oral traditions and tales being told person to person all the way to modern tech, mankind has always loved stories for the purposes of education and entertainment. 

On this episode, we discuss a popular and widely loved type of story: the fairy tale. Dictionary.com defines a fairy tale as “a children’s story about magical and imaginary beings and lands.” These stories have been used for centuries in child development for assisting in teaching moral lessons to or instilling caution and/or knowledge in kids. 

When we think of fairy tales today, we think of happily ever after, Disney songs, animation. But some of these stories didn’t start out so sugary sweet. In fact, most of them had some pretty disturbing elements cut out to make them more palatable. That is, to not emotionally scar the children. Back then, the full intention was to, in fact, EMOTIONALLY SCAR THE HELL OUT OF THE CHILDREN. 

Hang on, ya’ll. There’s some doozies up ahead. 

For your consideration...Fairy Tales!

THE STORYTELLERS

Charles Perrault

Charles Perrault is referred to as the “father of fairy tales.” He was an author in France from the end of the 17th to 18th century and wrote Histoires ou contes du temps passé  (1697), a collection of fairy stories intended for children. He tended toward romantic stories, for example Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, and Beauty and the Beast. 

Aesop
Aesop was a former slave in Ancient Greece in the 6th century BC. His tales were told orally and made their way around the globe, eventually being collected and written out between the 10-16th centuries. He is credited with the wide use of fables: short stories, typically with animals as characters, conveying a moral lesson. The first collection of what would become known as Aesop’s Fables was first published in English in 1484. He is credited with about 725 fables in total!
 
Hans Christian Anderson

Hans Christian Anderson was a 19th century Danish author credited with 156 stories. His tales often poked fun at vanity. He wrote Fairy Tales Told for Children. First Collection. (1834) and is responsible for some of our most beloved stories like The Little Mermaid, Princess and the Pea, Ugly Duckling, and Thumbelina.

Jacob and Wilhelm Grimm

The Brothers Grimm were two German gentlemen that collected folktales from German residents in the early 19th century and compiled them into a volume of fairy tales. Their first collection was Children’s and Household Tales (1812). They are credited with stories like Snow White, Little Red Riding Hood, Hansel and Gretel, The Frog Prince, and Rapunzel and many more: over 200 stories!

THE STORIES

Cinderella

We all know the story of Cinderella as told by Disney: the poor orphan girl raised by evil stepmother and catering to evil stepsisters who uses a wish from a fairy godmother to go to a royal ball and meet a prince. She loses her glass slipper on the way out, and the prince searches the entire kingdom trying the shoe on every maiden until he finds her, and they live happily ever after. Ta-da. 

In the original, though, some creepy stuff goes on. The stepsisters are so desperate to fit the glass slipper so the prince will marry one of them that they hack off pieces of their own feet to be able to put it on. One of them cuts off her toes and the other her heel. Ugh. Apparently the blood gave it away. 

 

Additionally, along with the happily ever after, the eyes of the stepsisters are pecked out by doves. Yikes. Freakin birds, man. Can’t trust those guys.

And they pooed in Jeremy’s mom’s hair. And just all over that pigeon lady in Home Alone 2 as well. Uncool. 

The Frog Prince

We know the deal in the story we grew up with: the princess will kiss the cursed frog, he turns into a handsome prince, they get married, and all is well. So who’d have thought the original version of the Frog Prince was a total creeper? Well, he was. He follows her home and just gets closer and closer and closer to her in her bed despite her protests. Hey, frog…no means no. Gross. 

In one version, there was even a discussion of her sleeping with him for one night to break the spell. You know…like sleeping with him…like…

And she was not quite the gentle, demur princess you’d think: she had a temper. In the original tales, she either chucks him against the wall or cuts his head off. Either way, it somehow breaks the spell, and he transforms back into a prince. Whaaaaa…okay. 

YEET

Little Red Riding Hood

In Little Red Riding Hood–the family-friendly version–Red goes to visit her grandmother who, unbeknownst to her, has been eaten by the Big Bad Wolf who is now dressed in grandma’s clothes and waiting to do the same to Red. Red shows up and slowly realizes this is not grandma, but gets eaten alive. Luckily, a huntsman tracking the wolf comes in just in time, kills the wolf, and frees Red and Grandma from his belly. 

Not so in the old tale. 

No huntsman was there to save her in the original version. In fact, it got REAL WEIRD.
She apparently strips naked, gets in bed with wolf, and is eaten by the wolf. In another version, the wolf actually feeds her pieces of her grandma and gives her the grandma’s blood in a wine glass to drink…which she does. Overtly sexual overtones exist in these versions. In fact, the contemporary French idiom for a girl having lost her virginity was elle avoit vû le loup — she has seen the wolf” at the time so…draw your own conclusions.

 

Again…gross.

Rapunzel

Rapunzel was a witch’s captive in a tower whose long hair was used to allow a prince to climb up to her and visit. Disney said the witch got mad and cut her hair, tried to fool the prince and kill him, but failed, and he ends up rescuing her and they live happily…lalala. 

No. Not in this OG freaky fairy tale. In this one, these were conjugal visits and Rapunzel gets pregnant. When she, who knows nothing about that kind of thing, innocently tells the witch that her clothes are fitting too tight, the witch figures it out, hacks off Rapunzel’s hair, and magically transports her to another town. She lives there as a penniless beggar, starving…and then has the baby, who is also starving. Meanwhile, the witch kept the hair, throws it down when the prince shows up again for him to climb on up, then pushes him out the window when he reaches her. He falls into thorny bushes that impale his eyes, leaving him bloody and blind. 

Hansel and Gretel

Hansel and Gretel are lost in the woods and find a candy house owned by a witch who attempts to fatten them up and eat them. They trick her and push her into her own oven then escape home. But in this crazy original version, the house is owned by the devil and his wife. The devil wants to bleed the children out on a sawhorse, which they pretend not to know how to mount. The devil’s wife demonstrates and the children slit HER throat, steal the devil’s money, and run away. 

The Little Mermaid

Ariel, a mermaid princess of Atlantica, falls in love with a human prince, goes to a sea witch and trades her voice for the ability to walk on land and find him. She has to get him to fall in love with her and kiss her before the sunset in three days after which she will become human permanently; but if she doesn’t, she turns back into a mermaid and belongs to the sea witch. Easy enough. And despite the sea witch’s best efforts at sabotage, it all works out…in Disney’s version. 

What goes wrong in the original? Oh, just that the catch about having legs is that every single footstep is absolute agony, like walking on sharp swords. Also the prince falls in love with someone else. The little mermaid attempts to win his heart through dancing–remember agony with each step?–and it does not work. She is then given a dagger by her mer-sisters and told that if she kills him and walks around in his little blood puddle,  it will break the spell…but she can’t bring herself to do it. So she dies and turns into sea foam. You know… that stinky stuff on the edge of the tide? Yeah. 

 

Ariel doing the janky leg

Snow White

According to Disney: Snow White runs from her wicked queen sorceress stepmother who wants her dead because she is jealous of Snow’s beauty. Snow finds and hides out at the house of the seven dwarves. The evil queen finds her and, disguised as an old woman, gives her a poisoned apple, which kills her when she eats it. At her funeral, a prince who has been looking for Snow finds her there and wakes her with a kiss. 

According to original: it’s not a stepmother, but her ACTUAL mother that is jealous and wants her dead. When Snow runs for her life, mom sends a huntsman to not only kill her, but kill her and then retrieve her lungs and liver for the queen to eat so that she can hopefully soak up some of that beauty through her digestive tract. You know…because…science. 
 
Also, there’s no magic kiss to wake her up. The prince does find her, but he doesn’t kiss her. He’s bringing her dead body with him for…reasons…and a servant drops the coffin along the way. This apparently dislodges the poison apple from her throat, and she wakes up. The prince decides to marry her. And they live happily ever after. As zombies. 

But not before her mom is put in iron shoes that have been in the fire at the wedding and is literally forced to dance until she drops dead.

Sleeping Beauty

This poor girl. In the original version, she doesn’t prick finger on spindle of spinning wheel, but gets a sliver of silver flax stuck under her fingernail. She’s then placed by her father in one of his estates because she falls down, apparently dead. A king finds her there and rapes her and she becomes pregnant, giving birth to two children while still unconscious. One of them inadvertently sucks the flax out of her nail and she wakes up. 
 
She then seeks out the rape king who is already married. His queen finds out about the whole situation and tries to kill and eat the babies. Rape king then burns her alive so he can be with Sleeping Beauty. Awwww. So beautiful.

The Ugly Duckling

So we know the story of the ugly duckling becoming a beautiful swan (suck it, haters). But in the original version of this story, he really has it rough. He’s verbally abused and subjected to violent treatment by all the animals in the whole barnyard. They beat him and throw him out. He is able to find a kind old lady who takes him into her home and shows him love, but her cat hates him. So the cat verbally abuses him and forces him out of the house. The ugly duckling has to struggle to survive alone in the winter, which he does, but barely. He then eventually returns to the barnyard and has grown into a beautiful swan. There, he finds out that almost all his animal tormentors have been slaughtered in the time he was gone. Justice? 

Pinocchio

Remember Pinocchio’s conscience? Jiminy Cricket. Yeah. He murders that guy like almost immediately in the original version: throws a hammer at him and smooshes him to death. Pinocchio was a holy terror in the first story. He’s very violent, disobedient, dishonest, and mean. He runs away and is caught, and feet are burned off as punishment. He also gets caught stealing and is hanged at the end. His last words are calling out for his father. 

Chicken Little

The sky is falling! In the OG tale, a fox pretends to believe him and his friends and lures them to his house where he kills and eats them all. This was a warning not to lie and exaggerate. Got that, kiddos? Or a flippin fox will maul and eat you and all your friends in his home. So…

Pied Piper

The pied piper is hired to play his hypnotic flute to lure all the rats out of a miserable town. He delivers! But they refuse to pay him. In the original story, he comes back and lures their children into a nearby river, drowning them all as punishment for the debt. In some versions, he makes the kids join the army and fight in the Crusades. Either way, the townspeople never see their children again. Moral of the story: pay your bills, bruh. Also don’t trust a guy who plays the flute. Ever.

Other stuff we discussed...

Spring-loaded gas cans are over-engineered. Boycott.

Side project: Let’s make an air freshener!

Some super smart animals...that may or may not be aliens

FUN FACTS!

–Orcas have been found to be as intelligent as 15-16 year old humans.

–Octopuses are as intelligent as a 3 year old child. 

–Crows use tools to solve complex problems and remember human faces and sounds for years.

–Ravens are one of the smartest birds in the world. Their intelligence is compared to that of dolphins and chimpanzees. They remember how people treat them and can plan for the future. 

PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT: DO NOT LICK TOADS

Just…guys…come on. Don’t do that. It’s unsafe for you, it’s real gross, and the toad will turn back into a real dude and then you have to try to beat a murder rap. Who needs that kind of aggravation in their life? Amirite?

 

Here’s the page Peter referenced in the episode, “Frogs that Get You High: The Dangers of Toad Licking.” It’s actually put out by a rehab center:

 

 

Incredible. Amazing.

Let’s finish with some of the truth bombs and inspirational thoughts from this episode!

Dead mermaid corpses are how you get sea foam. That’s science. Boom.

I can smell this picture.

If you lie, you will get eaten by a whale. So just tell the truth, k?

Bubble wrap is better than pop-its. It just is. Again…science.

Aesop is not on Twitter. But he should be. The tortoise and the hare agree. 

And for your inspiration and information:

We’re swans now, bitches. Swans. 

Another one down! Thanks so much for stopping by, guys. And remember, life can be tough. Hard times happen and storms will inevitably come your way. But when they do, remember what Jonathan told us. 

Be a big brave dog like a buffalo, not a little chicken like a cow. Or something like that. And don’t forget to stay strange! Bye!


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